Freddie Sayers sits down to discuss the pandemic response with biologist Bret Weinstein. Read the supporting article: Listen to the podcast version: Before the pandemic, evolutionary biologist and former Evergreen professor Bret Weinstein was lauded by both sides of the political divide for his insights into the crisis on American campuses. As a member of the so-called 'intellectual dark web', Weinstein was expanding his audience and being profiled by legacy media like the New York Times. Then the pandemic began and his heterodox perspective suddenly fell out of favour, even with many of his erstwhile allies. Advocating for alternative treatments for Covid, questioning the efficacy of the global vaccine programme and challenging narratives of the pandemic came at a cost. Without warning, the Dark Horse podcast was demonetised on YouTube and Weinstein was forced to split from the views of his former friends and supporters. So, how can we seek truth in such divided times? Freddie Sayers invited Bret into the UnHerd studio in London to try to understand what his views really are. Follow UnHerd on social media: Twitter: Facebook: Instagram: TikTok: @unherdtv // TIMECODES // 00:00 - 01:31 - Introduction 01:31 - 04:43 - What have we learnt about the state of the world, post-pandemic? 04:43 - 06:26 - What mistakes were made? 06:26 - 12:31 - Is this pandemic response we experienced, going to become the norm? 12:31 - 14:34 - What does Bret see as the disaster in the pandemic response? 14:34 - 17:50 - Was it worthwhile vaccinating younger people? 17:50 - 22:22 - Were there darker forces at play when it came to the vaccination programme? 22:22 - 24:48 - Bret discusses the ‘Better Way conference’ he attended 24:48 - 28:33 - What is the worst case scenario behind the pandemic response? 28:33 - 31:14 - In a few decades time, will we see a generation with a decreased lifespan? 31:14 - 39:11 - Bret’s opinion on The Pandemic Treaty 39:11 - 43:30 - What is down the road for us? Will there be a new pandemic? 43:30 - 45:36 - What’s in store for Bret? 45:36 - 47:29 - Is the worst still yet to come? 47:29 - 48:11 - Conclusion #UnHerd #COVID #BretWeinstein
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